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« Reply #25 on: Thursday 16 April 2009_ 19:06:12 »

This is shameful.  I've emailed his show loads of times as he only lives a few miles from me and I thought he'd want to help the blight of (local-ish) hedgehogs.  I've never had a reply or an acknowledgement     Angry  I haven't watched it but how is this still  happening? 
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« Reply #26 on: Friday 17 April 2009_ 08:55:48 »

It's highly unlikely he even sees the emails. They way it normally works is some assistant filters out what they consider useful for the show. It's the same on the radio, you never get direct to the presenter, it always goes via an oik.

The only way I can see this getting anywhere is if loads of us email or if we can get hold of the email address for the producer.
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« Reply #27 on: Monday 18 May 2009_ 11:25:47 »

Derek,

It's that tim eof year when gardeners are reaching for the slug deterents. I thought this would be  a good time to press you on your views regarding products such as "Nemaslug" and "Nemasys".

I note form http://www.nemasysinfo.com/ :

"Welcome to nemasysinfo, dedicated to pest control using natural, environmentally friendly nematodes to kill slugs, vine weevils, chafer grubs, leatherjackets, caterpillars and codling moth using Nemaslug and Nemasys. "

It strikes me that our soils are already full enough of these nematode infestations and that, whilst they may be based on organisms, such products constitute ecological weapons of mass destruction. Views? Have you spoken with any of these manufacturers?
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« Reply #28 on: Wednesday 20 May 2009_ 15:28:44 »

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Hi - don't know if you can help - we used to have hedgehogs in our garden but due to having to have it all fenced to keep in animals we are now overun with slugs and snails and do not want to use slug pellets or similar. Do you know of anyone who could let us have any, locally  - they would have apprx 1 acre to roam in.


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Thanks for your e-mail.

Unfortunately, I have to advise you that I would never advocate the keeping of hedgehogs in captivity for the sole purpose of keeping down a slug and snail population.

It's actually a popular myth that hedgehogs solely eat slugs and snails - the truth is that only 5% of their diet consists of molluscs and they are actually a real last resort for the animal. Hogs much prefer beetles, caterpillars and worms, even birds eggs and tiny mammals, before they even consider munching slugs and snails. An over-reliance on slugs and snails actually leads to very poor health for hedgehogs, with many developing lungworm, which may turn into full-blown pneumonia and, eventually, death (if left untreated).

Hedgehogs actually only need a small space under fences to squeeze through (about 5-6cm is usually enough), so I don't know whether it would be possible for you to raise the bottom of your fencing by that much to allow them entry. Whilst the hogs won't rid you of slugs and snails you could actually encourage them in and help their falling population by feeding them a dish of white meat-based cat or dog food (in jelly) and a bowl of fresh, clean water each night. If your other animals (esp. cats and dogs) are likely to wolf it all down, you may wish to invest in a hedgehog feeding station, which prevents access to other animals.

The only exception to the rule about keeping wild hedgehogs in semi-captivity (i.e. in an enclosed garden with no means of escape) is to provide a home to those with disabilities which would prevent them from existing safely in the wild. The main categories for this would be hogs which are blind, or which are disabled by the loss of a back limb (although, incredibly, hogs can and do survive in the wild with a missing back leg - if they lose a front limb, however, that is generally the end of the road, as they need their front legs for digging and for mobility).

If you were serious about wanting to keep a hog in semi-captivity you should be prepared to purchase an outdoor hedgehog house (£25 upwards) and possibly a feeding station too (again, another £25-30) to prevent your other animals stealing their food. Alternatively, a rabbit hutch makes a good hoggie home, but you must give them freedom to come and go as they please (don't keep them locked up). You'd also need to supply suitable food (cat/dog food as stated, cat biscuits, treats like dried mealworms, sultanas, crushed peanuts, etc) every day.

The bottom line is hedgehogs are born to live in the wild and not in enforced captivity in an enclosed garden (with the exception of disabled hoggies), and certainly not for the sole purpose of keeping down a slug and snail population !

You may wish to consider contacting the Cedar Wildlife Sanctuary in Kirkby (I have copied them into this e-mail). I do know that they take in a lot of hedgehogs each winter, but I suspect they will probably have released most of these by now, and I don't know whether they would have had any disabled ones this Winter. However, it may be useful for them to have your details on record, should you want to look after a disabled hog in the future, although they may want to check your garden first.

You may also wish to consider contacting Janet Peto, who is an official British Hedgehog Preservation Society carer for the Nottinghamshire area - her telephone number, according to the BHPS website (http://www.britishhedgehogs.org.uk/carers.htm), is 07940 714 830

Fortunately, all the hogs living in Snape Wood seem to be in excellent health, and I do not currently have any which I am rehabilitating.

In terms of your slug/snail problem there are some non-pesticide remedies which you may consider. The most common slug repellents are beer traps, which you can buy from Wilkos, or adding two cloves of garlic to a watering can (and letting it 'stew' for a while) and pouring that over the plants you want the slugs to avoid. It's also recommended that you water plants first thing in the morning, rather than last thing at night (which makes it easier for slugs to come to the surface). Also, some birds (thrushes in particular) are very partial to snails.

I hope this helps

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« Reply #29 on: Wednesday 20 May 2009_ 15:39:31 »

Yay !

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Hi thanks vey much for your detailed reply I will consider all the options and probably try for a disabled hedgehog

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« Reply #30 on: Thursday 29 October 2009_ 11:05:50 »

Very well and positively said.

I'm aware slug pellets are bad but what I did not know (or need to confirm) is about nematodes.  There is a product called Nemaslug which kills slugs by using nematodes. The manufacturer states: "Nemaslug is harmless to children pets and wildlife. Nemaslug is so green that birds & hedgehogs can happily eat slugs after application."

Is this right ?  Huh

I remember them saying the same thing about DDT....
Also, Gaucho, a pesticide, has now been withdrawn by the French Minister of Agriculture as it's thought to be contributing to the massive decline in Bee populations in France - having also been deemed to be safe...
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« Reply #31 on: Tuesday 09 February 2010_ 17:26:58 »

Derek that was so well said. I'm a gardener and garden purely for wildlife, 3 ponds, lots of wildlife plants, plenty of dead wood for insects, 4 hoggy houses, butterfly house, red mason bee house, ladybird house, bat boxes and lots of bird boxes. I gave up using pesticides at our old house and you wouldn't believe how quickly wildlife moved in. Within 3 years we had a veritable nature reserve. It wasn't a big garden but it was a good garden. Friends and family didn't always like it and make a point of telling me so. Over time I have educated them to various degrees buying them hoggy houses etc for birthdays. They now appreciate what we are losing and do their little bit for the wildlife. I used to feel sad when they critised my garden but now I am proud that they can see the benefits and leave a little untended patch for the hogs .

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« Reply #32 on: Thursday 17 June 2010_ 22:54:17 »

i hate people who spread the rumor that snails are the only diet for hedgehogs, i think its harsh to risk hedgehogs lives by feeding something that can give them lung-worms.
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